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#4

Tu? Allama sahab bhi Insaan hi thay koi Terminator type Humanoid Robot tu nahin thay jinka koi dil Aur ehsaas hi na Tha.

Insaan jitna marzi buland qamat Aur aala paye ka Aalim ho, isaani jazbaat se aare nahin reh sakta.

Khud tumharay samnay 24-6 saal ki koi European haseena ajaye tu main daikhun ga Kay tum kis tarah apnay emotions pay control rakh patay ho.

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#6

General Musharraf ki jholi garm karnay ka reward kafi dair se Mila is buddhi ghori ko.

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#7

Jab janoni qatilun Mumtaz Qadri Aur Khalid ko yeh society Islam Kay hero Bana Kay paish karay gi tu Jannat Kay entry Kay certificate Aur Hero Kay tag Kay liye struggle Kaun kambakht nahin karna chahay ga.

Yeh janooneyat Reyasat Kay thaikeydarun ko suit karti hay Aur isi janooneyat ko yeh theqydaar apnay political Aur strategic goals hasil karnay Kay liye baad main isteymsal bhi karti rahi hay.

Mazhabi Janooneyat aik buhut useful tool hay Reyasati idarun Kay liye.

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#24

Mulk woh hauta hay jahan idaray uski malkeyat hun Aur awaam Kay liye sayebaan ka kirdar ada karay. Pakistan tu ab Fauj ki malkeyat main hay phir na janay kaunsay beywaqoof jazbati log iski ownership Aur ulfat ka izhar kartay huway nahin thaktay.

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#5

Aamir Siddique wrote:

تو جو میں نے پوسٹ کی وہ جعلی ویڈیو ہے ؟؟ پوسڑی دیا

Aamir sahab waisey, Mun aapka bhi Khotay day khurr varnish Karan alay brush aar aye. Baaz ajao, GeoG baray bhai hain tameez se baat kia Karo.

Warna laa Kay hath ich phara dawan ga.

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Pindi se aaj tak koi ghairatmand politician ya social personality nahin daikhie. Yeh charsi, sharabi Aur zaani ka track record tu mujhe az bar hay 1997 se lay Kar ab tak.

Acha hay is chaklay Numa Mulk main Randiyan apna bol lagnay Kay liye taeyaar hain Aur Gahak ko lubhanay main choice bhi mil jate hay is chaklay main.

Rawalpindi ki tu zameen hi zarkhaiz hay is muamlsy main, Kya Sheikh Rasheed Aur kya yeh loafer Shoaib Akhtar.

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Haan beygherti Kay copyrights tu Afghanu Kay paas hain, Pakistani state nay tu sirf Afghan Fasaad ki marketing Aur dalaali ka sirf role play Kar Kay sirf kuch Dollars kama liye US say tu forex reserves main hi izafa Kiya 3 decades tak. Aur Afghan refugees ka randi Rona Kar Kay ju billions of Dollars kamaye us pay tu Pakistani state ki tareef bante hay. Aur Afghan Fasaad ko jihad se nathi Kar Kay poori Dunya say funds Aur aid ikathi Kar Kay buhut si Maaun Kay lakht e jigar ko maut Kay ghaat utaar Kar deeni fariza bhi khoob ada Kia Pakistani state nay, beygherat tu Afghan hain sirf jo Pakistani state ki in azeem contributions ka ehsaas hi nahi kartay, no doubt.  🙂

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#113

Shirazi wrote:

brethawk, Zaidi & Bawa Jee As many said here before this thread is nothing new just reiterating your old views. On drone strikes Bawa Jee and I locked horns countless times. My view is drones killed the back bone of Jihadis in Tribal area. If our military hadn’t allowed drones allied forces would have gone for hot pursuit and boots on ground. The only reason they didn’t because they were getting desired results from drones, slowly but surely. Drones were not indiscriminate, very targeted and precise far far better than artillery and Jet pounding that Pak army did in south Waziristan during Zarb e Azab. There were some civilian casualties but the precision improved as their ground intelligence network matured. The NATO forces were not the only beneficiaries, the suicide attacks in our schools, malls, mosques died significantly courtesy same drones. My stance is pragmatic not ideal. in political federation people give up their right to pick up arms in favor of state. The state has the authority to crush insurgencies be it Pakistani army or Indian, Waziristan or J&K. That’s their legit move as opposed to running PM house or all these state institutions.

Wil your US state allow any other foreign power to operate and mete out same sort of treatment to the likes of George Bush Jr, David Rumsfield, Colin Powel, Henry Kessinger and almost every brutal operative of CIA for the crimes—which includes staging coups, destabalisong political systems, engaging senseless wars and indulging in hundred of thousands of killings of civilians in the name of restoring democracy and protecting, the US values—which they have committed in many parts of the world in the last few decades?

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Yeh woh laanti fauj hay jiskay haath hamesha say hi apnay citizens Kay khoon say rangay rehtay hain. Enforced disappearances hun ya extra-judicial killings ya Bangladeshi Women Kay rape, Tribal Area pay barbareyat se bharay operations hun ya drone Kay hamlay CIA ki supervision main, political manipulation Aur interference ho ya civilian leadership ki tazleel Aur qatal, Crimes ki Core Text main koi aisa jurm nahin jo is beygherat fauj nay is Mulk main na kiye hun, mager aaj bhi aksareyt awaam ki—khaas Kar Punjabiun Kay liye—fauj ab bhi aik muqadas cow ki haseyat rakhti hay, tu is say Bari tragedy tu shayed Greek Aur Roman takhleek kaar bhi tarteeb na day sakay hun sadiun pehlay.

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#80

Bawa wrote:

مجھے کیا پتہ، مجھے کونسی انگریزی آتی ہے۔ ابھی تو میرا جی سے سیکھ رہا ہوں سیکھنے سے یاد آیا ہے سنا ہے کہ سیکھنے کے لئے بجانی پڑتی ہے https://danishgardi.pk/forums/topics/ٹُھکرا-کر-پی-گئی/page/2/#post-115050 اردو میں نائکہ نائیک کی وڈھی پھوپھو کو کہتے ہیں جو ہر وقت گھر میں ویلی بیٹھی رنڈی رونا روتی رہتی ہے

Tauba hay Bawa bhai ager aap jaise Highly Skilled immigrant ko Canada jaisay shaandaar Mulk main reh Kar Angrezi nahin aate Tay fair Tay sanu ABC phir se tajweed Kay saath parhni parray gi kisi master se. 

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#107

Nadaan sister, aapko poora Haq hay apni sauch Aur opinion rakhnay ka Aur humko poora Haq bhi hasil hay us logic Kay flaws ki taraf nishandahi karna. Baki aapki yeh baat bhi theek hay kay political argument main decency ka level nahin khona chahye kisi ko.

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#106

Shirazi wrote:

I still do, I supported drone strikes in tribal area military operations in Sawat, Waziristan and J&K. That’s military’s job. I am only against there political engineering.

So it’s acceptable to you that if an army of a so called sovereign country play the role of mercenary and outsource its own responsibility to foreign forces to conduct mass and indiscriminate bombings in the name of eradicating terrorists and their infrastructure for a price?

By the way as Qasim Zaidi bhai mentioned, does an army has God given authority to use its force without any system of check and balances of constitution and other laws of the country?

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#3

Guilty wrote:

۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ آپ نے محمد رفیع کے بارے میں تھریڈ لگا یا ۔۔۔۔۔ دنیا میں موزیک ۔۔۔ خاص کر کلا سیکل میوزک ۔۔۔۔ زیادہ تر ھندوستان میں ۔۔۔۔ بنا یا اور سنا جا تا ہے ۔۔۔۔ بقیہ دنیا میں کلا سکیل میوزک ایک پرسنٹ ہوگا ۔۔۔ اس لحاظ سے ۔۔۔ ھند وستانی خوش قسمت لوگ ہیں کہ ان کے معاشرے میں کلچر میں ۔۔۔۔ میوزک ۔۔۔ کو بہت اھمیت اور مقام حاصل ہے ۔۔۔ جو کہ کسی دوسرے ملک یا معاشرے کو حاصل نہیں ہے ۔۔۔۔ سر ۔۔۔ راگ ۔۔۔ ٹھا ٹھ ۔۔۔۔ انسا نی زندگی پر اور انسانی معاشرے پر کیا اثرات ڈال سکتے ہیں ۔۔۔۔ ان کے اندر جو کمال اثرات ۔۔۔۔ اور ۔۔۔ فریکونسی موجود ہے ۔۔۔ اس کی مثال یہاں سے سمجھ سکتے ہیں کہ ۔۔۔ اگر مجھے پا کستان کا حاکم بننے کا موقع ملے تو میں ۔۔۔ پورے ملک کے نصاب میں ۔۔۔ میوزک ۔۔۔۔ کا مضون لازمی کردوں ۔۔۔ میری ابھی دل کی ایک خواہش یہ بھی ہے کہ اگر مجھے موقع ملے تو میں پا کستان میں ۔۔۔ کلا سیکل میوزک ۔۔۔۔ اکیڈ میاں ضرور قائم کرون گا ۔۔۔۔۔۔ ۔۔۔۔۔ اس لحاظ میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ ۔۔۔۔ ھندوستانی لوگ بہت خوش قسمت ہیں ۔۔۔ اور بقیہ دنیا ۔۔۔ خدا کی اس نعمت سے محروم ہے ۔۔۔۔ میں جب قرآن پر غور کرتا ہوں ۔۔۔ تب معلوم ہوتا ہے کہ ۔۔ ۔ قرآن پا ک دنیا کی وہ واحد کتاب ہے ۔۔۔ جو کتابِ ھدا یت ہے ۔۔۔ لیکن قرآن کی تمام سورتیں اور تمام آیات ۔۔۔ سروں ۔۔۔ میں ہیں ۔۔۔ ایک بھی آیت ۔۔۔ سروں سے ۔۔ باھر ۔۔۔ نثر میں نہیں ہے ۔۔۔۔۔ تمام آیات ۔۔۔۔ ردیف اور قافیے کو ملا کر ایک خاص لہن میں قرآت کی جا تی ہیں ۔۔۔ خود ازان بھی ۔۔۔۔ سریلی آواز میں ۔۔۔۔۔ دی جاتی ہے ۔۔۔۔ نثر میں نہیں دی جا تی ۔۔۔۔۔ اور میں نے یہ بھی مشا ھدہ کیا ہے کہ ۔۔۔۔ قرآن کے قاریوں کا گلہ ۔۔۔ سالوں کی قرآت کے بعد ۔۔۔ قاریوں کے گلے میں بھی وہ سر ۔۔۔ پچ ۔۔۔ کھرج ۔۔۔ رینج ۔۔۔ پیدا ہوجاتی ہے ۔۔۔ جو گا ئیکی کے بڑے بڑے استادون کو ۔۔۔ ریا ضت کے بعد پیدا ہوتی ہے ۔۔۔۔ ۔۔۔ محمد رفیع ۔۔۔ لا ہور پا کستان سے تعلق رکھتے تھے ۔۔۔ اور اکثر ۔۔۔ اتوار کے روز ۔۔۔ باربر شاپ پر گانا وغیرہ گا یا کرتے تھے ۔۔۔۔ پھر محمد رفیع کے بڑے بھا ئی ۔۔۔ رفیع کو ۔۔۔ گلوکاری کے لیئے ۔۔۔ لاہور سے ۔۔۔ بمبئی لے گئے ۔۔۔۔ اور یوں ۔۔۔ پا کستان کی ایک بڑی آواز ۔۔ ھندوستان ۔۔ منقتقل ہوگئی ۔۔۔۔ ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ۔۔

Aapki baat se mutafiq hun Kay Hindustan Kay namwar ustadun ne Hindustani classical music main buhut contribute Kia hay. Khaas Kar Muslim intellectuals Ki inventions Aur research ko ageay barhaya jaisay Kay Al Farabi, Ameer Khusrow waghera.

Hamaray Haan aam ta’asur yeh hay kay Muslim ulema nay Music jaise fun pay koi kaam nahin Kia jo aik Kam ilmi Kay ilawa Aur kuch bhi nahin. Is classical music Kay tradition ko apnay andaaz main Europe nay kafi zinda rakha huwa hay jahan par Mozart, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Bach, Wagner Aur kuch aur Heavyweight Masters nay Dunia ko apnay art se dang Kar deya.

Abhi recently Italy Kay aik buhut baray composer Ennio Morricone ka inteqaal huwa hay jinhun nay pichli saadi main lazawaal music tarteeb Dia, inkay kuch Shah parray mulahiza karien;

Baqi reh Gaye Rafi sahab ki baat tu is azeem artist ki tareef Kay liye sach main alfaaz nahin miltay. Mainay 1980’s ki dehaye daikh huwe hay jab log Rafi sahab Kay ganun Kay deewanay thay jabkay, Rafi sahab ko Dunya se rukhsat huway abhi chand saal hi guzray thay. Us waqt Middle East main koi South Asian gharana Rafi sahab Kay songs Kay baghair entertainment ka taswur bhi nahin Kar sakta Tha.

Ab waqt kafi guzar chuka Aur khud meri tabeyat main bhi ab Western Classical music ki taraf mayel ho chuki huwe hay, mager aaj bhi Rafi sahab ka song kanun main parhnay ki dair haute hay Aur meri attention fauran us song pay focus ho jate hay. Aise feeling mujhe aaj tak kisi Aur singer se mehsoos nahin huwe.

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#67

Condemenable, unfortunate and dispicable act has been committed by the killer and he should be punished according to the spirit of law if it’s possible in this madhouse (Pakistan).

Now coming back to the so called pseudo-liberals, Agnostics and Atheists of this forum. Do you guys really think that you yourselves don’t follow and blindly worship your own passions, greed, avarice and self-interest in this world?

If the answer is in affirmative, which it is indeed the case then how much you guys are different from the followers of religion?

I know that your obvious response would be that ‘We are not blood-thirsty extremists of the religious folks and thus are peaceful.” Right?..

Resounding wrong and the simple answer is that if a privileged life of excess or moderation is snatched from you guys and you are exposed to the harsh realities of impoverished lives of injustice and inequality than you will definitely not hesitate to slit the throats of your fellow humans on any give pretext and opportunity to fulfill your needs and appease your wounded pride and the funny reality is that you won’t even budge or hold back from the call of your consciousness for even few seconds because it’s already morbid and dead.

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Saindak Kay agreements hun, IPPs ke sovereign guarantees ka muamla ho, State of Hyderabad Kay dues hun ya yeh Broadsheet LLC Kay damages claim hun, Pakistan Ki state Aur iskay organs nay sahih anee payee hoye aye Kaye salaan tun.

Fer kainday nay Dunia Pakistani state nal discriminate Aur nafrat kardi aye. Jo chawlan is Mulk ich chaldeyan nay una nu foreign organizations Tay apply Karan nal inj day aie tapphay painday nay international forums Tay.

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#8

Jack Sparrow wrote:

Are you the same brethawk, who used to write good English on Siasat.pk?

Bhai good ka tu Pata nahin, but yes I’m the same Bret Hawk who used to write at siasat.pk in English.

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#5

Bhai Sohrab, main Twitter Aur dosray social accounts pe zara Kam hi online hauta hun aaj Kal. Mager itna zaroor kahun ga Kay Asim Bajwa Kay kartoot hi discuss ho rahay hain social media pe.

Khaas taur pay iski income Aur assets beyond means Kay hawalay se kafi behes garm hay kuch Dino se Twitter per. Zahir hay is jaisay Fauji officer Army ko join hi taqat Aur paisay Kay hasool Kay liye kartay hain, so woh isnay Kar rakhi hay Aur mazeed abhi bhi Kar raha hay.

Ab yeh koi “Bloody Civilian” tu hai nahin jiska media trial ho Aur iski assets ke scrutiny ki Jaye Qazi Essa ki Tarah. Yeh log waisey hi mubara hain is Mulk main is qisam ki pooch gach say.

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#8

Asbeyat, do number hub ul watni, Mazhabi janooneyat, Aur nasal /qaumeyat parasti kuch aise psychological bemareyan hain Jis main mubtila haunay Kay baad achay bhalay Insaan main sauchnay samajhnay ki ability mauf ho jate hay.

Baqi mujhe tu yeh kidnapping aik tarah ki warning call lagti hay Mati Ullah Jan Kay liye Kay sudher jao warna agle dafa majbooran humaien tumhari laash phenkni parray gi kisi sunsaan jagah pay.

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#26

Bawa wrote:

اسلام آباد ہائیکورٹ نے صحافی مطیع اللّٰہ جان اغوا کی درخواست نمٹادی https://jang.com.pk/news/799886 اس ملک کی عدالتوں کی فوجی وردی پوش دہشتگردوں کے سامنے یہ اوقات ہے. کسی نے اغوا ہونے والے سے بلا کر نہیں پوچھا کہ اغوا کرنے والے کون تھے اور اغوا کرنے کے بعد اس کے ساتھ کیا کچھ ہوا ہے؟ ان عدالتوں کی جرات ہی نہیں ہے کہ وہ فوج کے کرتوتوں کے بارے میں زبان کھول سکیں یہ وہی عدالتیں ہیں جو ایک منتخب وزیر اعظم کو اپنے خاندان کے ساتھ ان عدالتوں کے سامنے پیش ہونے کے باوجود ڈان اور سسیلین مافیا جیسے القابات دے رہی تھیں حالانکہ ان بے شرم ججز کو پتہ تھا کہ اس ملک میں ڈان اور سسیلین مافیا وہ ہے جس نے بیرکوں سے نکل کر اسلحہ کے زور اور اپنی بدمعاشی کے بل بوتے پر اس ملک پر قبضہ کر رکھا ہے

Zeyada door maazi main janay ki zaroorat nahin. Aapko ilm hoga Kay kis Tarah IHC Kay Judge Shaukat Aziz Siddique Aur phir recently Justice Qazi Faez Essa, Aur Musharraf case ki verdict deynay walay judge Kay saath jo salook huwa is Mulk main in Ba-wardi badmashun Aur inkay touts Kay hatun tu kis Tarah se is Mulk ki Judiciary Aur deegar Bar Councils khamoshi se tamasha daikhti rahien.

Aur koi nahin ager yeh Judges Aur Bar Councils Kay wakeel hi thori ghairat dekha dein apnay institution Kay khilaaf haunay Wali is musalsal tazleel pay tu shayed is Fauji badmasheya Kay hauslay itnay barhay huway na hun jitna ab kuch saloon se daikhnay main araha hay Pakistan main.

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Retrograde Motion is a reality of almost every planet of our solar system and the only exception being so far is our planet Earth.

As Sait bhai has rightly cited a key scientific observation that that powerful magnetic field of Earth is losing its intensity for some years now, which will definitely affect the GPS, satellite systms and world-wide compasses that indicates the probable reversal of Magnetic Field and switching of North and South poles of earth.

One thing to note is that the experts are  treating this South Atlantic Anomaly as something mysterious and not a regular unimportant event that should have occurred long time ago.

Coming back to the theme of this thread, I think the time is not far when our Earth will also experience a Retrograde Motion and then one can understand some of the elements of those Hadith that predicted the rising of the Sun from the west.

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