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    Re: Wexit after Brexit

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/29/justin-trudeau-victory-canada-wexit-060634

    Conservatives swept Canadian polls in 9/11 states, got 1.5M more popular votes. But Trudeau won 40 more parliamentary seats from primarily two states Ontario and Quebec. Conservatives want to build pipeline especially western oil based states but liberals don’t let them on environmental concerns. They say screw Libs we won’t live with you … Western Exit or Wexit.

    It’s similar to Brexit or Civil War in USA, where economic interests of conservatives and Liberals clashed.

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    Re: Wexit after Brexit

    میں تو یہی سمجھتا رہا اور اب بھی سمجھتا ہوں کہ آپ سواے توحید کے تمام باتیں سمجھنے کی صلاحیت رکھتے ہیں، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ بریگزٹ الیکشن کے بعد بھی لٹک جانا ہے کیونکہ گورنمنٹ سمجھتی ہے اسے اکثریت مل جاے گی اور اگر نہ ملی تو پھر کیا ہوگا؟

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    مغربی صوبوں میں بھی دو کالی بھیڑیں ہیں مینی ٹوبا اور برٹش کولمبیا – یہاں پر این ڈی پی اور لبرلز کافی تعداد میں جیتے ہیں اور یہاں کے لوگ آئل پائپ لائن کو پسند نہیں کرتے

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    میں تو یہی سمجھتا رہا اور اب بھی سمجھتا ہوں کہ آپ سواے توحید کے تمام باتیں سمجھنے کی صلاحیت رکھتے ہیں، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ بریگزٹ الیکشن کے بعد بھی لٹک جانا ہے کیونکہ گورنمنٹ سمجھتی ہے اسے اکثریت مل جاے گی اور اگر نہ ملی تو پھر کیا ہوگا؟

    Toheed is easy concept, stupid concept to make stupids even more stupids.

    BTW what’s your take on Bristish elections? Few months back I thought Jermey Corbyn has real shot but despite all Brexit mess Boris Johnson seems to be in better shape. It’s mind boggling.

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    Toheed is easy concept, stupid concept to make stupids even more stupids. BTW what’s your take on Bristish elections? Few months back I thought Jermey Corbyn has real shot but despite all Brexit mess Boris Johnson seems to be in better shape. It’s mind boggling.

    مجھے لگتا ہے کہ برٹش اپنے ریفرینڈم کی لاج رکھنا چاہتے ہیں اور ایسٹ یورپ سے جان چھڑوانا چاہتے ہیں اسی لئے بورس جانسن کی جیت کے چانسز زیادہ ہیں لیبرز کا سٹانس چونکہ متحدہ یورپ کے حق میں ہے لہذا ان کی مقبولیت کم ہورہی ہے

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    Wexit doesn’t really answer the pipeline question. Plus, there are many first nation (Native Indian) reserves in the west who oppose the pipeline and the are a part of Canada through a treaty which will be nullified. Canada’s head of the state is queen of England and all the land in Canada belongs to her, government land is called “Crown Land”. West will have to pay Canada for the land lol.

    The year is 2025, Alberta has successfully separated from Canada by buying all the crown land in the province from the Feds for $1 trillion dollars, we are already in massive debt… but it’s ok because no equalization payments.

    The provincial income tax rate triples to accommodate all the lost federal services and transfers; yet corporate tax rates continue to drop.

    Our official currency is the “Klein” as all bills and coins depict King Ralph. A Klein is worth about $0.10 CAD.
    We have no military, just a militia of hunters and farmers with guns. They wear yellow vests, this strategy has yet to be tested in battle.

    You must eat oil for at least one meal a day; not just because the War room demands it, but because we have no way to ship it because we are land locked and never invested in refining a finished product. The US has their own oil and Canada is importing from anywhere else.
    Imported goods are incredibly expensive because we have no official trade agreements with Canada since we told them all to “F off”.

    The minimum wage is back to $5/hr, unions are outlawed.
    Everything has been privatized yet still receives tax funding. Your kids now go to Suncor Elementary where they refuse to hire post secondary educated teachers who brainwash kids. Your child’s teacher is Earl, and he’s a vac truck operator. He educates them with documentaries on YouTube. School fees are $700/month.
    Driving from Edmonton to Calgary now costs $80 in tolls, but hey no carbon tax.

    Rebel media is now the official news source for Alberta; climate change news is banned.
    Next year we start building a wall, the Canadians are paying for it.

    *note this is satire*
    Thanks Scott Duhig

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    Re: Wexit after Brexit

    “Is it real? Yeah. People are mad,” Randy Hoback, a Conservative Party member of Parliament in central Saskatchewan told POLITICO. “I’ve never seen it like this.”

    Trudeau will need to overcome the perception in western Canada that he campaigned against Alberta and Saskatchewan in the final days before the election if he wants to prevent alienation from growing, Hoback said.

    “I love my country. I’m proud of what Canada has been and what it can be together. We are the strongest together, so I’m going to fight for a unified Canada,” Hoback, the Conservative MP, said.

    یہ میرے حلقے سے دو ہزار آٹھ سے مسلسل چوتھی بار منتخب ہونے والا ممبر پارلیمنٹ ہے. میں اب تک چار بار اس کی مخالفت میں لبرلز کو ووٹ دے چکا ہوں اور یہ چاروں بار بھاری اکثریت حاصل کرکے الیکشن جیت چکا ہے

    تاریخی طور پر اس حلقے اور صوبے میں کنزرویٹیو اور این ڈی پی دو بڑی پارٹیاں ہیں. اس صوبے میں لبرلز کا کردار مولوی پین دی سری والا ہی ہے یعنی این دی پی کے ووٹ توڑ کر اسے الیکشن ہروانے والا ہے. اگر لبرلز الیکشن میں این ڈی پی سے سیٹ ایڈجسٹمنٹ کر لیں تو وہ کنزرویٹیو کو ملنے والی آدھی سے زیادہ سیٹوں چھین سکتے ہیں

    قیوبک کے برعکس اس صوبے کے لوگوں میں کینیڈا سے علیحدگی والے جراثیم نہیں پائے جاتے ہیں. صوبے کی مرکز سے شکایات اپنی جگہ لیکن اگر کوئی پارٹی علیحدگی کا کوئی نعرہ لگاتی ہے تو وہ عوامی حمایت سے محروم ہو سکتی ہے

    یہاں کی اکانومی کا انحصار زراعت، معدنیات اور تیل اور گیس پر ہے. یہ صوبہ کینیڈا میں سب سے زرعی اجناس خصوصا گندم، کینولا، دالیں وغیرہ پیدا کرتا ہے اور سب سے زیادہ معدنیات خصوصا یورینیم اور پوٹاش برآمد کرتا ہے. اگرچہ اسوقت البرٹا کی آئیل کی پروڈکشن ساسکیچوان سے زیادہ ہے لیکن ساسکیچوان کینیڈا کا سب سے زیادہ آئیل اور گیس سے مالا مال صوبہ ہے

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    Alberta separation wouldn’t solve problem of landlocked oil: expert

    CALGARY — International trade experts say it’s a pipe dream to think the landlocked oil-producing western provinces would have an easier time getting their product to international markets if they were to split from Canada.

    “Wexit” — an apparent play on the word “Brexit” used to describe the United Kingdom’s planned departure from the European Union — was trending on social media after the Liberals secured a minority government in last week’s federal election, but were shut out of Alberta and Saskatchewan.

    Peter Downing, a founder of the western separatist movement that wants a referendum on separation, has said an independent country in the middle of the Prairies could leverage the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to gain coastal pipeline access.

    “We have more freedom as an independent country to get our resources to the coast than as part of Canada,” he said the day after the election.

    “We’ll have the best of both worlds: We’ll keep our money and we’ll have access to the coast.”

    The UN convention, adopted in 1982, does say that “landlocked states shall enjoy freedom of transit through the territory of transit states by all means of transport.”

    However, it goes on to say that terms “shall be agreed between the landlocked states and transit states concerned through bilateral, subregional or regional agreements,” and that transit states have the right to ensure their “legitimate interests” aren’t infringed upon.

    “It’s not an unqualified right. They can’t just say, ‘OK, we need to get through here,'” said Silvia Maciunas, a fellow at the Centre for International Governance Innovation in Waterloo, Ont.

    “They have to talk to the other state, which would be Canada.”

    The “means of transport” in the convention refers to railways, waterways, roads and even porters and pack animals, but the treaty specifies that landlocked and transit states would have to agree to add pipelines to the list.

    Landlocked countries such as Ethiopia and Switzerland have long had agreements to use ports in other countries.

    Bolivia, on the other hand, lost its ocean access in a war with Chile in the 1800s and has been fighting to regain it ever since. The International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled last year that Chile has no obligation to engage in talks with Bolivia.

    “Had the court ruled in the favour of Bolivia, Chile would have theoretically been obligated to enter into ‘good faith’ negotiations, whatever the heck that means,” said Carlo Dade, director of the Trade and Investment Centre at the Canada West Foundation.

    “You can imagine how that would play out up here if Alberta, Saskatchewan leave … We’ve seen enough out of B.C. to know how that would play out,” said Dade.

    The British Columbia government has resisted, primarily through court actions, the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion that would triple the amount of crude shipped between Alberta and the Lower Mainland.

    Add to that there is no real enforcement mechanism through the international court, Dade said.

    “The only thing the ICJ gives you is the ability to go from saying, ‘Please give us access’ to ‘Pretty please give us access.'”

    This report by The Canadian Press was first published Nov. 3, 2019.

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