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    Re: We 're gonna impeach the MF*ker

    Palestinian origin Congress woman from Michigan Rashida Tlaib right after taking an oath

    Compare that with Bajwa Kuta Hai Hai

    Both expressions are not acceptable but you can’t put anyone behind the bars just for chanting explicit slogans.

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    سیاستدان کو تو یہاں بھی گالی دے دو تو کوئی محسوسمنٹ نہیں ہوتی۔ نواز شریف اور اس کے خاندان کو کیسی کیسی گندی گالیاں دی گئی ہیں کہ بیان کرنا مشکل ہے لیکن باجوہ صاحب ہمارے سر کا تاج ہیں، ہمارے گھنگرووں کی ٹلی ہیں، ہماری چوڑیوں کی چمک ہیں، ہماری نتھ کا موتی ہیں انہیں گالی دی جائے یہ بات کسی محب وطن کو گوارا نہیں۔

    ویسے اس خاتون کو کہا جانا چاہیئے کہ وہاں کے آرمی چیف کو گالی دے پھر دیکھے۔ بعض دوست کہیں گے کہ پھر بھی کچھ نہیں ہوگا اس صورت میں اسی خاتون کو کہیں کہ باجوہ کو گالی دے۔ دنیا کی لمبر ون ایجنسی نے وہاں آکر ٹینٹوا نہ دبایا تو کہنا۔

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    That’s comparing apples to oranges.

    I’ll wait for when someone abuses American military on DC streets and no one bats an eye۔ Americans love affair with their military is a well known fact.

    P.s. they should probably lycnh this @$$hole for abusing General Bajwa.

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    فنرل پروٹیسٹ پر امریکی سپریم کورٹ کا فیصلہ پڑھ لو … فنرل پروٹیسٹ سے زیادہ توہین کیا ہو سکتی ہے ؟

    پھر بھی سپریم کورٹ نے پروٹسٹرز کے حق میں فیصلہ دیا

    That’s comparing apples to oranges. I’ll wait for when someone abuses American military on DC streets and no one bats an eye۔ Americans love affair with their military is a well known facts،
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    فنرل پروٹیسٹ پر امریکی سپریم کورٹ کا فیصلہ پڑھ لو … فنرل پروٹیسٹ سے زیادہ توہین کیا ہو سکتی ہے ؟

    پھر بھی سپریم کورٹ نے پروٹسٹرز کے حق میں فیصلہ دیا

    Funeral protests are anti Iraq war not anti military۔

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    جب آپ اپنے شہدا کے جنازوں پر احتجاج کرو ، مطلب آپ ان کی قربانی کی قدر نہیں کرتے

    … ایک سولجر کا والد کہہ رہا ہے

    Its an insult to my son , to every military men..

    Funeral protests are anti Iraq war not anti military۔
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    جب آپ اپنے شہدا کے جنازوں پر احتجاج کرو ، مطلب آپ ان کی قربانی کی قدر نہیں کرتے

    … ایک سولجر کا والد کہہ رہا ہے

    Its an insult to my son , to every military men..

    No body at the funeral protests explicitly yelled profanities at US military personnel.

    It’s a simple case, you are comparing apples and oranges۔ Just look at football players protesting by taking a knee، they have to face so much backlash but imagine if they abuses US military، they would be shot dead۔

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    مطلب پاکستانی عوام ایسے بینرز لائے تو ٹھیک ہے انہیں کچھ نہیں کہا جائے گا لیکن کتا نہ کہے ؟

    This No body at the funeral protests explicitly yelled profanities at US military personnel. It’s a simple case, you are comparing apples and oranges۔ Just look at football players protesting by taking a knee، they have to face so much backlash but imagine if they abuses US military، they would be shot dead۔
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    امریکن آرمی کھلم کھلا سیاست نہیں کرتی چنانچہ گالیاں بھی نہیں کھاتی

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    Gen. Bajwa is not abused for his yet to be determined war heroics. He is abused for making and breaking political leaders and parties. Non elected individuals have absolutely no right to do so. You don’t see that anywhere in the civilized world, even in India you can’t dare to do that. Imran Khan is inpower courtesy GHQ and is not able to deliver thanks to unrelenting failed policies of GHQ. Soon Insfais will be chanting similar slogans. Didn’t Imran say something on like wet trousers of Generals? What kind of Patriot use that sort of language? Where is our lynching brigade?

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    Gen. Bajwa is not abused for his yet to be determined war heroics. He is abused for making and breaking political leaders and parties. Non elected individuals have absolutely no right to do so. You don’t see that anywhere in the civilized world, even in India you can’t dare to do that. Imran Khan is inpower courtesy GHQ and is not able to deliver thanks to unrelenting failed policies of GHQ. Soon Insfais will be chanting similar slogans. Didn’t Imran say something on like wet trousers of Generals? What kind of Patriot use that sort of language? Where is our lynching brigade?

    I can’t recall a single leader made or broken by Bajwa. The problem with attack on Bajwa is not singular, it’s multi pronged and incredibly dangerous and those who think they will be able to create anarchy in Pakistan and grab power as result have something else waiting in the shadows. Bajwa is not the architect of our political scenarios, it’s GHQ as an institution. Even when Bajwa goes away, Nawaz will still be in jail and PmLn will still be licking it’s wounds.  Don’t fight a 800lbs gorilla when you can’t even take on a sickly dog.

    What are the failed policies of GHQ? Their position in regional geo-politics is stronger than ever. Pakistan and China are cooperating even in space endeavours. GHQ has been very successful in its Afpak policy with US mulling an exit from Afghanistan after 17 years of failed war against Taliban. In a strange luck of draw, something great is happening for Pakistan in the shape of dwindling dependency on US for weapons. Trump’s holdback of funds to Pakistan in War of Terror has really helped Pakistan as Pakistan is forced diversify its weapons suppliers and military aid.

    Pak military is now the most experienced force to combat terrorist attacks and unconventional war that’s why a lot of forces (Russian, Turkish etc) hold joint excercies with Pak miltary.

    GHQ’s position with regards to India is vindicated by an extremist like Modi in the office whose internal anti-minotity especially anti-minotity policies are an indicator of whats in his mind for a country like Pakistan. Kashmir is an will continue to be a flash point between two countries nownow m than ever because of water issues in Pakistan.

    Open trade between India and Pakistan will definitely be one sides as of now.  Because of the lack of industry in Pakistan, it has much less to offer India, pak will be another dumping ground of indian products like Chinese products.

    Ground reality is much different than the what some of us might actually think, Muslims and Hindus have been fighting each other for a 1000 years and to claim that the India Pakistan animosity is created by GHQ is living in a fool’s paradise.

    I can’t find any disagreement with GHQ on its foreign policy endeavours.

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    امریکن آرمی کھلم کھلا سیاست نہیں کرتی چنانچہ گالیاں بھی نہیں کھاتی

    Lets step back for a second, did you forget that every single dictator in the history of Pakistan ascended to power with the help of USA? I would even extend it that most of the dictators in middle East and South America are America’s doing. Who over threw a democratically elected Mosadigh in Iran and installed the Shah of Iran?

    And there’s another problem, You think Pentagon has nothing to do and gain from creating wars in Middle east?

    Americans are smart enough to know that their military is that vangaurd of their empire (of bases). America is not great because of its support for human rights and democracy, it’s because of their military strength.

    Military war machine is very good at manufacturing consent in USA. They are capable of any attrocity under the guise of national defense. They don’t need to directly interfere in politics when their lobbyists are doing a great job for them.

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    I can’t recall a single leader made or broken by Bajwa. The problem with attack on Bajwa is not singular, it’s multi pronged and incredibly dangerous and those who think they will be able to create anarchy in Pakistan and grab power as result have something else waiting in the shadows. Bajwa is not the architect of our political scenarios, it’s GHQ as an institution. Even when Bajwa goes away, Nawaz will still be in jail and PmLn will still be licking it’s wounds. Don’t fight a 800lbs gorilla when you can’t even take on a sickly dog. What are the failed policies of GHQ? Their position in regional geo-politics is stronger than ever. Pakistan and China are cooperating even in space endeavours. GHQ has been very successful in its Afpak policy with US milling an exit from Afghanistan after 17 years of failed war against Taliban. In a strange luck of draw, something great is happening for Pakistan in the shape of dwindling dependency on US for weapons. Trump’s holdback of funds to Pakistan in War of Terror has really helped Pakistan as Pakistan is forced diversify its weapons suppliers and military aid. Pak military is now the most experienced force to combat terrorist attacks and unconventional war that’s why a lot of forces (Russian, Turkish etc) hold joint excercies with Pak miltary. GHQ’s position with regards to India is vindicated by an extremist like Modi in the office whose internal anti-minotity especially anti-minotity policies are an indicator of whats in his mind for a country like Pakistan. Kashmir is an will continue to be a flash point between two countries nownow m than ever because of water issues in Pakistan. Open trade between India and Pakistan will definitely be one sides as of now. Because of the lack of industry in Pakistan, it has much less to offer India, pak will be another dumping ground of indian products like Chinese products. Ground reality is much different than the what some of us might actually think, Muslims and Hindus have been fighting each other for a 1000 years and to claim that the India Pakistan animosity is created by GHQ is living in a fool’s paradise. I can’t find any disagreement with GHQ on its foreign policy endeavours.

    Bajwa is no entity the slogans were raised against COAS for GHQ’s never ending political role. There is nothing wrong with slogans raised to disapprove GHQ’s politics. ZAB, NS, IK all are created by Bajwa and ilk.

    Modi is the elected PM in world’s biggest democracy and only democracy in developing world. Modi hasn’t delivered on economy and will be held accountable for that. He will do everything he could to turn things around unlike our political leaders who are dependent on GHQ for every single move that can make a difference. East Pakistan, Kargil, Mumbai Attacks, Osama in backyard, Murdering your own SP through Afghan Taliban, 40 years of this mayhem, $$$ reached from 40 to 140 and you find nothing wrong with GHQ? May be the day they kick IK’s ass you will find something wrong.

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    I would love to know, if possible, though I doubt if it is possible, whether the loud cheers were to support the word “Impeach” or on the explicit.

    The leaders do shape the destiny of the people, but the people shape the behaviour of the leaders.

    A loud cheer on either of the two words, now makes the leader more confident to keep on using these words.

    A hush would have helped the leader examine her behaviour.

    My behaviour shapes the behaviour of the society.

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    I would love to know, if possible, though I doubt if it is possible, whether the loud cheers were to support the word “Impeach” or on the explicit. The leaders do shape the destiny of the people, but the people shape the behaviour of the leaders. A loud cheer on either of the two words, now makes the leader more confident to keep on using these words. A hush would have helped the leader examine her behaviour. My behaviour shapes the behaviour of the society.

    I dearly wish that your behaviour shapes the behaviour of some of the members of this Forum.

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    I would love to know, if possible, though I doubt if it is possible, whether the loud cheers were to support the word “Impeach” or on the explicit. The leaders do shape the destiny of the people, but the people shape the behaviour of the leaders. A loud cheer on either of the two words, now makes the leader more confident to keep on using these words. A hush would have helped the leader examine her behaviour. My behaviour shapes the behaviour of the society.

    the word impeach didn’t attract loud applause it’s always the profanity, that’s what make Sheikh Rashid crowd’s darling

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    Lets step back for a second, did you forget that every single dictator in the history of Pakistan ascended to power with the help of USA? I would even extend it that most of the dictators in middle East and South America are America’s doing. Who over threw a democratically elected Mosadigh in Iran and installed the Shah of Iran? And there’s another problem, You think Pentagon has nothing to do and gain from creating wars in Middle east? Americans are smart enough to know that their military is that vangaurd of their empire (of bases). America is not great because of its support for human rights and democracy, it’s because of their military strength. Military war machine is very good at manufacturing consent in USA. They are capable of any attrocity under the guise of national defense. They don’t need to directly interfere in politics when their lobbyists are doing a great job for them.

    تو آپ کا مطلب ہے کہ گالیوں کی اصل مستحق امریکی فوج ہے

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    تو آپ کا مطلب ہے کہ گالیوں کی اصل مستحق امریکی فوج ہے

    American army doesn’t do this kinda shit at home, if they would they will be abused like Pakistan Army. Beyond American frontiers they do and no one pull punches.

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    American army doesn’t do this kinda shit at home, if they would they will be abused like Pakistan Army. Beyond American frontiers they do and no one pull punches.

    Jee Bhai exactly what I think too

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    پنجابی کا محاورہ ہے کہ …باندر ہاتھ کٹورا لگیا ..پانی پی پی آپھریا

    ٹرمپ کا اپنا ماضی بھی انہی قسم کی گالوں سے بھرا پڑا ہے لہذا ٹرمپ کو تو اعتراض کا کوئی حق نہیں تاہم …ممبران …سنیٹر اور صدور کا اپنا ایک لیول ہوتا ہے ..اس قسم کی گفتگو سے پرہیز کیا جاۓ تو زیادہ بہتر ہے …ڈیموکریٹک پارٹی کی دو پہلی مرتبہ منتخب ہونے والی خواتین …رشیدہ …اور الیگزینڈرا کورٹیز ….شاید ان نودولتیوں کی مانند ہیں جنھیں شاید یہ ممبری راس نہیں آرہی اور وہ ان فضول بیانات کے ذریعے میڈیا میں پارٹی میں اپنا نام بنانا چاہتی ہیں

    رشیدہ کو یہ پتا ہونا چاہیے کہ ایوان نمائندگان جہاں ڈیموکریٹ اکثریت میں ہیں ..وہاں تو صدر کے مواخذے کی قرارداد منظور ہوسکتی ہے مگر صدر کو ہٹانے کے لیے سینیٹ کی دو تہائی اکثریت چاہیے ہوتی ہے …رشیدہ کی پارٹی کے پاس تو پچاس فیصد بھی ووٹ نہیں ہیں ….پتا ہے نہیں کہ پراسیس کیا ہے اور چلی ہے امپیچ کرنے

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